HELLO, TUMBLR. I gift you with this. I hope it comes in useful!
2 years ago on June 16, 2012 at 02:36pm with 69 notes
Well hello, obligatory racial quota!
Cas, have you been there recently?
And please, please don’t call me a racist because I am not, there was nothing racist in what I meant.
Just, when the television feels the urge to have all the colors in the universe in ONE team wich you guys will admit is not statistically accurate or even realistic, it shows a lack of confidence on the way persons of colour are viewd in society. It tastes and look artcificial to me because it is obviousely forced to compensate some sense of guilt or whatever that society feels.
IT FUCKING IS STATISTICALLY ACCURATE IN NEW YORK
DO YOU WANT ME TO GATHER FIVE POLICE OFFICERS BECAUSE I GUARANTEE YOU AT LEAST TWO WILL BE POCS
THIS CASTING ISN’T THE PROBLEM
THE PROBLEM IS YOU ASSUMING THAT THE ONLY REASON A POC WOULD BE CAST IS TO FILL A QUOTA
THERE FUCKING WAS SOMETHING RACIST IN WHAT YOU SAID I AM SAYING THIS AS A POC
YOU HAVE LITERALLY NO PROOF AND AS A RESULT THE ONLY CONFIRMED RACISM IN THIS CONVERSATION IS COMING FROM YOU
YOU DON’T THINK IT’S BECAUSE HE’S TALENTED, OH NO, IT’S AUTOMATICALLY TO FILL A QUOTA
I AM SO DONE
So I’ve been watching this cross my dash all night & I just want to point out that when we talk about casual racism in fandom? This is a prime example. NYC has something like 8.2 million people. 3.5 million white people (give or take a few hundred thousand), 2.1 million black people (again, give or take a few hundred thousand), 1 million Asian people & 1.4 million people who ID as mixed race. Many of the people categorized as mixed are of Latin descent. Some of those ID’d as monoracial have some Latin heritage. NYC is the closest America gets to a true melting pot & in a city where white people are less than half of the population you bet your ass a whole lot of cops are going to be POC. But hey, why let facts intrude when you can pretend that recognizing that POC exist in media is about quotas & not about reality?
PROFESSIONAL TIP: if you don’t want people to call you racist may I recommend trying a revolutionary ‘don’t be racist’
Stating (or even just implying, for that matter!) that someone got a job based on ‘quotas’? Is FUCKING RACIST.
i like how the OP was racist in the first place and instead of apologising or rethinking or anything, they just went from one offhand racist comment to an entire racist screed! congrats OP on going up a racist level. you must be so proud.
I just… this line ’ television feels the urge to have all the colors in the universe in ONE team’
what the fuck, man
I think the phrase you are reaching for is people of colour, not ‘colours’. I mean, I know I am saying this about someone who thinks having anyone other then white people in media is somehow tokenism, but fuck, phrasing really matters.
HEY OP GUESS WHAT.
I don’t know if you noticed, but crime kind of exists fucking everywhere. Conversely, people interested in stopping crime and bringing criminals to justice are going to come from fucking everywhere. They just may not always be represented in a given official police force / judicial system because of social and institutional barriers based on gender, race, and class.
And when someone manages to clamber over those barriers or kick them down entirely to the benefit of others of their same/similar background, you pointing at their presence and calling THEM artificial as opposed to recognizing that it’s the all-white, generally all-male team ITSELF that’s the artificial construction IS TAKING INVESTIGATIVE/POLICE/FORENSICS/JUDICIAL WORK BACKWARDS, NOT FORWARDS.
AND BEING RACIST AS FUCKING HELL.
And that’s not even touching the white savior overtones that come with an all-white/overwhelmingly white crime show cast, either, HOLY SHIT.
Someday I am going to be in court testifying in front of a jury with at least one person who saw that stupid fucking skulls kissing picture with the pseudo-science bullshit race/sex analysis underneath it and they’re going to roll their eyes because obviously I don’t know what I’m doing and I’m going to vomit up my own intestines until I have a length of flesh long enough for a lasso and then I’m going to yank them right out of the jury box and drag them up to the stand and I am going to grab them by their lapels and shake them while howling out a citation heavy summary of the Daubert standard and the judge and the bailiffs and everyone else in attendance will just look away and not lift a finger to stop me because really, MY RAGE IS TOTALLY JUSTIFIED.
HELLO, TUMBLR. I gift you with this. I hope it comes in useful!
This is so perfect, for the time you look at this image, you don’t know if it’s a boy and girl, a girl and a girl, a boy and a boy, a black man and a white girl, a white man and an asian girl, you know nothing. Just the simplicity of the connection and the beauty of two human beings sharing love and that is all that should ever matter.
If you’re an Osteologist you know exactly what the sexes, ages, and races of those bones are.
even without that kind of education i can tell a lot about their facial structures from this image
#the left is male and the right is likely a female #both appear to be in their prime#likely european judging by thier noses and cheek shape #though the left is ambigious to me #might be more eastern #regardless i find the slope between his nose and forehead interesting
Yeeeeeah I really hate the notion of “we’re all the same on the inside~!”
whether literally or figuratively
and while ppl think they’re promoting diversity when they say that all they’re really promoting is the idea that in order for people to care about each other they have to be alike
and that is butts
(Sorry tumblr, professionally obligated to offer up this abbreviated rant on the subject. I’ll try to keep it as non-jargon-y as possible. Off the top of my head, so hopefully I don’t fuck something major up and shame the whole profession.)
Going to have to call bullshit on the “likely European” just from looking at profiles and x-rays like this. Determining ancestry and likely social race from skulls is a sticky area, anthropology wise: it can be important to identification in forensic contexts so it’s still used, but there’s a lot of racist bullshit pseudoscience that goes mostly unexamined and is still pushed as fact. Most of the people (even very experienced, very famous anthropologists) who claim to be able to tell just by looking at a skull what social race an individual would likely have been identified as (self-identification is a whole ‘nother ballgame) fail to acknowledge that they’re actually using a lot of non osteological factors in their determination. Stuff like knowing the population demographics of the area where the skull came from or even the demographic distribution of the individuals you see most often in your casework (like an anthropologist I met who proudly proclaimed that they could correctly assign race at just a glance in 95% of cases… and then two minutes later admitted that since they worked near the US border with Mexico 95% of their cases were undocumented workers who had died in the while attempting the desert crossing; so even just guessing “Hispanic” 100% of the time they would have appeared to have a very high rate of successful identification without having ever looked at a skull).
Off the top of my head I can only think of one method that just looks morphological traits (shape and physical features of a skull) that has any sort of statistical validation to it at all, and that method is limited to “white”, “black”, or “Hispanic” classifications (most methods also sidestep the fact that Hispanic is an ethnic identity, sooooo). The method with the most statistical validation requires careful measuring different points of the skull and then plugging those metric measurements into FORDISC, a program that uses descriminate function analysis to assess the degree to which a particular skull matches measurements taken from skulls from different known populations around the world.
FORDISC itself isn’t perfect and has it’s own biases when it comes to what groups it includes in its reference samples (it’s been a few months since I’ve used it but IIRC the “Chinese” sample isn’t all that big and doesn’t take into account the fact that a country with over a billion people is going to have loads of internal diversity and variation) and it can’t really account for individuals of mixed background, but it at least gives you a statistical output that you can use to judge the validity of the program’s sorting.
Also going to have to call bullshit on the biological sex identification. When attempting to establish biological sex just from a skull alone you look at a specific grouping of traits (nuchal crest, mastoid process, supraorbital margin, supraorbital ridge/glabella, and the mental eminence if you’ve got the jaw are the most standard features used) and score the individually in an attempt to reduce bias. I’ve not tried it with just an x-ray and I’d have to look up the literature to see if you can even attempt it with any sort of validity, but just looking at this image at this scale and quality (and with that hand blocking the mastoid process and some of the jaw’s goinal angle [corner of the jaw] on the individual on the right) I wouldn’t put too much stock in it for this case.
The backs of both skulls are cropped out of the image, meaning you can’t use nuchal crest. Not only is the mastoid process (muscle attachment site just behind the ear) difficult to see here, but you can only see one side (you need to use both if possible) and you can’t really get a good idea at the true size and shape of it in this flat 2D slice. Supraorbital margin (the shape of the edge of the upper rim of your eye socket) is also out (maybe with enough magnification and a clear x-ray you could make a call, but I’ve always found it easier to feel with my own fingers). You CAN at least look at the shape of supraorbital ridge/glabella (where your frontal bone/forehead meets your nasal bones/the upper part of your nose). You can’t look at mental eminence (how your chin looks face-on) at profile at all.
So for this x-ray, that’s one trait out of five. Pretty piss-poor for an any osteology-based attempt at sexing.
As for age, they’re adults and have all of their teeth in (looks like the person on the left has had their third molars out, while the person on the right still has theirs, partially erupted), and maybe with the full-size x-ray you could narrow things a bit by looking at their tooth roots, the shape of their pulp chambers, and the amount of wear to their tooth cusps (or you could get creative and look for evidence of arthritis in the bones of the hand), but other than that? Adult, early to mid twenties and up, but who knows how far up, much less whether their age falls into what they would culturally identify as their “prime”.
We are all different inside, shaped by our genetic histories, our environments, and the lives we’ve lived. That diversity is beautiful and fascinating and why I went into anthropology in the first place. There are some trends and patterns within that variation that make it possible to look at bones and infer some things about the person in life, but we have to be careful in our observations, measurements, and interpretations lest we fall back into the same tired, biased, non-scientific, biologically essentialist bullshit that’s characterized much of anthropology’s past (mostly to the benefit of the privileged white, upper-class, educated men writing out all of those supposed “rules”).
Went to go check the mail and lo, a package! Whatever could it be?
Only the best scarf in the entire world as gifted by one of the best people in the entire world (my bff j), and right in time for a in-like-a-lion-esque dip in the temperature.
Good friend best surprise. :D
Also pictured is Mulder (my Skull-y), who’s not 100% anatomically correct, being a plastic anatomical model (and not one of the $500+ ones, holy shit), but an excellent study aid and art reference, and lives on the shelf dedicated to my non-textbook forensics-related books.
Play music in the lab while I’m working/studying and pretend I’m whichever CSI character best fits the genre.
Typically it is some sort of alternative and I’m Greg Sanders but today is a Schubert/pensive classical and opera sort of day, so I’m Gil Grissom.
Finally saw Sherlock last night (all of the first episode and half of the second) and while it did ocassionally make me shout (generally along the lines of SHERLOCK WHAT ARE YOU DOING SHERLOCK YOU CAN’T WHIP THAT BODY WITHOUT A RELEASE FORM SHERLOCK YOU ARE CONTAMINATING THE SCENE AND ANY POSSIBLE FIBER EVIDENCE FUCK FUCK FUCKING SHIT SHERLOCK GLOVES SHERLOCK MOTHERFUCKING GLOVES JESUS YOU’RE GETTING FINGERPRINTS EVERYWHERE WELL SO MUCH FOR CHAIN OF CUSTODY AND THE CHANCE OF THIS CASE EVER STANDING UP IN COURT) I enjoyed it rather a lot. Will have to hunt down the other episodes.